This is a record of the journey - working with communities to provide safe drinking water where there is none.
Tuesday, August 12, 2014
2 More Communities Complete Their Projects - Hacienda de Pena Blanca and Ex Hacienda de Jesus
Friday, February 10, 2012
Report of Inauguration of Sapasma II Project in Cienega
Saturday, January 28, 2012
Presita de Santa Rosa Inauguration of Sapasma II project
Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Los Torres Sapasma Project II inauguration

The Los Torres community held their inauguration of the 3rd family cistern phase of water projects held in their community. This phase was funded by the Sapasma II project.
Monday, November 14, 2011
44th Event of the SMA Midday Rotary Water Project Los Torres
Where: Los Torres Community Pilot Project private house
When: 14.11.11
Who: Saul, (Cedesa), Miguel Cruz (technician) Denis & Laura (Rotary), 27 adults plus 5 kids
1st Day of Pilot training session (train the trainer type) for Phase III of Los Torres Water project, This project funded as part of the Sapasma Project II grant.
The materials had been delivered as requested, by Hierro Comercial Dolores Hidalgo, on Friday afternoon.
Friday, October 28, 2011
Happy Update...Sapasma Project II
Sapasma (our local water authority) have agreed to fund another project for 59 cisterns mxn$439,399 pesos. This project will be carried out in 3 communities with an additional 3 solo cisterns to be provided in 2 more communities.
Los Torres will carry out phase III & construct 18 cisterns.
Presita de Santa Rosa will carry out phase I & construct 20 cisterns - with an additional cistern being funded by a private donation - thank you Chris - & thank you Holly for arranging this.
Cienega will carry out phase II & construct 18 cisterns.
Cinco Senores will work with University de Leon & receive a single cistern.
Rancho Bonito will receive 2 single cisterns...
Paperwork is currently being completed & funding is expected to be received this week, with 1st Pilot in LT scheduled to kick off on 7th Nov.
It will be a punishingly tough rollout, with every effort to get things underway before Christmas!!
Thursday, October 13, 2011
Mini Regional Consejo Meeting 13.10.11
Absent (Laura, Chela)
Communities represented:......
A mini Regional meeting was held at Cienegita on Thurs 13th Oct. to determine the priority for the receipt of resources for water cisterns.
It was decided Cienega would receive the 19 cisterns available from the Sapasma Funding Grant II...
****The next priorities are Juan Gonzales, La Palmita II and Correlejos.****
Communities of Cinco Señores, Villa de Guadalupe didn't show up at today's meeting, (nor La Tinaja, but Saul didn't advise them - they are difficult to reach since there is no cel phone signal there).
Wednesday, October 12, 2011
2nd Mtg of the Presita de Santa Rosa Potential Water Project
When: Wed Oct 12th 2011
Who: Saul, Holly, Chela (Cedesa), Laura (Rotary), delegado Jose Luz Ramirez Vazquez, 20 adults incl 6 men, + 4 kids
Purpose: 1st Planning meeting for Sapasma funded water project. (from Sapasma Grant II)
Saul opened the meeting, describing why we’re here, & the history of our collaboration with Presita, including previous meetings & visitors to other assemblies from Presita. Presita also sent a mini commission to visit Cedesa approx. 1 yr ago.
Roberto, one of the members of the PSR community is also the secretary of the Consejo formed as a result of the water projects in the region.
The Roll was called, there were 20 on the list & 3 absent from that list.
Saul called for a co-ordinator & records taker & explained the reason & process (as we do at each meeting), Mayra was proposed & Mayra proposed Erica. A vote was taken & Mayra was appointed. Roberto was appointed records taker.
Mayra called for points for today’s agenda:
1. Cisternas
2. Contamination of Pozos
3. The process of construction of cisterns
4. Dry toilets
5. Roberto would like a mini commission to attend the Consejo, not just him
6. Organisation of groups
7. Taller at Cedesa changed to November
Chela re-iterated the involvement of their community in the process to date & reinforced that this is the reason they are now about to receive resources to construct cisterns.
She asked who knew the process of the construction of the cisterns, one young guy said he understood it was done in working groups, families banded together to build all cisterns for all families in the group. Another said they had heard they were going to be at the same time as Cruz del Palmar, & were now starting earlier?
Item 1 – contamination of water
There was general discussion about contamination, causes, symptoms etc. PSR have had water from the Banda Sapasma well for 5 yrs. Before that they had only small family wells & water from an irrigation well. They observed they have what seems like high concentration of sodium in the water as there is a lot of white build up on taps…
Saul explained that we had done a study & taken water samples of many wells including Banda, as a way to establish a baseline re our continuing study with Tierra Blanca to determine the cause of the high cancer rates they have there. The testing had been done by Unam & the Consejo on the Banda well & it was discovered to have very high level of fluoride, 3.47 (highest max safe level is 1.5mg/l).
This is a serious problem in this community but also in this region in general, causing damage to your health & that of your children, which is one of the main reasons we began this project in 2008.
There are more than 300 families currently using this well in Banda, & many are unaware of the situation with the contamination, you need to tell the communities (your neighbours) this information – one of the women joked “we don’t drink much coke, sometimes wks go by, but now we cant drink the water either – what can we drink?”. We all laughed & said, exactly, that’s why we are catching the rain water to drink.
At this point Chela took the floor to discuss junk food & it’s damage to health, & the benefits of eating healthily v the strain we put on our bodies having to process the chemicals & food colouring in junk food. Saul pointed out that initially there will be resistance by their families to eating healthy food, but once everyone is used to eating healthy food it becomes very difficult to tolerate junk food anymore… & just need to break the habit.
Item 2 Cisterns/project planning.
Apparently there are approx. 44 families in Presita & so only approx. ½ have stepped forward to participate (we have found this to be common in the communities, there is always an initial group of motivated early adopters & later the others “get” the idea & we have to do a phase II)…
It was decided the pilot training session will be carried out at the primary school.
There are approx. 30 children at the school.
The list of participants was transcribed for all to see.
There were 18 firm participants at that point. There was one other woman, not here today (since her kids are sick) who has been participating & it was voted to add her – Isabel.
Another woman was visiting for the first time & asked to be included, there was a lot of discussion about people’s ongoing work for over a year, & she had been invited but not participated previously & was just showing up today to get on the list.
“if you’re not part of the meetings you shouldn’t expect to get rewarded with a cistern”. “We’re not just working on cisterns, she should be involved in the other meetings too like the regional meeting in La Tinaja – there’s lots of work going on”
Eventually it was agreed she could join the group, there was a talk about possibility of her having to pay a fine, but nothing was agreed.
Groups were formed as follows: A= Abanile, C= Co-ordinator
Group 1 7 families Group 2 7 families Group 3 6 families
20 Families + 1 pilot = 21
It was confirmed that water would have to be carried to the school for the pilot.
(approx. 3000 litres per day)
Community Co-ordinator was appointed – Hortencia + backup Roberto
PVC & Gravel will be delivered to one central location & collected from there to the house of Rosalia
No date has been set for the pilot, until we know when the $$ will be received, which is reliant on deciding the 3rd community (Currently Los Torres 19, PSR 21, 3 solo cisterns + 19 ??? – this is being decided at the Consejo meeting tomorrow)
Chela reminded everyone they need to work hard to make this project as success as future project funding is riding on this.
She explained that the process of building the cisterns is carried out to ensure that all cisterns advance at the same rate, ie all wire weaving done first, then the next step, applying cement etc, so they all finish at the same time.
They need to meet as groups to decide their hours of work & rules, ie fines if no work, Saul suggested the person breaking the rule might have to provide carnitas for everyone!
Tools – Saul listed the tools needed on the first day of the pilot, including grinder to make the small hooks needed to weave the wire & mesh together… scissors for cutting the wire, cutters for the maya etc, & also suggested they bring something to rest their knees on while they are kneeling to do the weaving of the wires.
Item 3 – Sanitarios Secos (dry toilets)
This community along with most of the consejo communities, was part of the solicitud to govt to construct 400+ cisterns in 18 communities. Chela gave an update of the situation with the resources Lucy had given them, that the $4million + pesos comes with a requisite to have outside contractors (& a bid process), which excludes them from being able to build them themselves, which was what they were hoping for to be able to stretch the $$ to provide more toilets for more families.
The Promoters from Desarollo Social have been visiting the communities to create a list of recipients (once they check they have no form of toilet – functioning or not – to be able to be eligible)… They have not visited Presita yet.
Item 4 Representation at Regional Meetings
Roberto is feeling like it is a lot of work to be secretary of the Consejo as well as to have to advise his community of “goings on”. He has also not received any contribution to his costs from his community, whereas other communities have supported their representatives. There are at least 4 people who are on the list of reps. of the Consejo, but have not been attending as they have not been informed, lack of communication is a common issue in the communities, as no-one has phones & they live a long way from eachother. It was agreed that advice of meetings will be given to Roberto & he will in turn inform the other reps. to ensure all know when the meetings are on, & they will begin to share costs of transport.
Item 5 Taller – Workshop at Cedesa
Saul explained that training & ongoing improvement is a way to increase people’s standard of living. Cedesa & the Consejo are committed to the process of integral development & ongoing work (not just completing the projects & that’s it!)… Part of this process is to continue to share information & learn new & better ways of doing things. As part of this process Cedesa holds regular workshops for campesinos on various techniques & information. There is an upcoming Workshop planned for 19th November 9am-5pm at Cedesa
The topic of this workshop is Food, & Alternative Medicines, Saul asked if anyone could define what Alternative medicines meant, one young man responded “ there are plants with curative properties, it’s about learning these”.
Saul explained - included in the Food topic will be how to construct a nopal tunnel – why Nopal? Because it’s one of the most noble plants in our region, it provides so much & is such a healthy option so if we take care of these we can ensure better production.
A commission of 3 can come from Presita (& all other communities) & report back & organise groups to learn at people’s houses, ie to interchange the information.
Chela reiterated the objective is to learn to produce food, since grains & beans will be a big issue this year, with failing crops & lack of rain. Change in climate has been a big issue & we need to adapt & ensure we work hard on alternative food production.
At this point the meeting was declared closed, one of the older women had left the meeting early to prepare food for us (visitors), she came back in struggling to carry hot pots of lentils & pasta soup with calabasa… & THE most delicious tortillas I’ve eaten!
There was no date set for the next meeting/pilot (this will be done by phone once we know the date of the receipt of funds).
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
Report 3 Guerrero Assembly 21.9.11
Report of 3rd visit to Guerrero,
Where: Guerrero – past Capaderillo, before La Aurora & Don Juan
When: 21.9.11 12.40pm
Who: Saul, Holly (Cedesa), Waldo & Alva (Sapasma) Laura (Rotary), 18 women (2 men), 10kids, 4 dogs
Purpose: To prepare for the water cistern project to be funded by Sapasma, & co-ordinated & administered by the Team (Laura, Saul, Chela & Holly).
Saul was there when we arrived & “passed the list” (called the roll).
Saul asked the assembled group to introduce themselves, each person in turn said their name. He remembered they have been working for more or less 1 year, & that today was a special day as Sapasma is with us & have confirmed they will provide funds for this project.
Holly, Waldo, Alva & I introduced ourselves.
Saul called for a co-ordinator & record taker, he briefly described the function of each role, & emphasised it was important to take good notes, especially of actions that are decided.
Eduviges was appointed Co-ordinator & Irene – record taker.
Holly asked for exception to be able to speak while others were speaking in case she needs to translate for me…I asked for permission to take photos (& they all immediately began giggling & started to “primp” for the camera)
Points for the agenda were called for.
1. Contaminated water/cisterns
2. Sanitarios secos
3. Forming of groups
4. Training pilot.
Saul stated one of the principle objectives of today’s meeting is to determine how united you are in your “mission” & how to achieve/create the plan of work, what’s involved, how etc.
Re item 1. Contaminated Water/Cisterns
Saul “why do you want this project? What are your water issues?”
Antonia – we know the water is very contaminated
Sylvia – as well our well doesn’t have any water, even now at the end of the rainy season
“we also have to carry water a long way from other sources if we don’t have a well”
“often the wells are shared between families, there are as many as 13 families sharing one hand dug well”
“the river was clean & clear, now it’s not, & our wells have fluoride, & rivers are polluted so no choices”
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Salud now has no problem because she has a cistern (she was lucky enough to be part of an earlier project with Capaderillo – neighbouring community).
It’s 2 wks since the pipas (water trucks) have come, when they come they don’t provide much water, 2 tambos (large buckets) per family only, & we haven’t even had that for the last 2 wks.
Saul reiterated that dental fluorosis & the pains in the bones they are having are all symptoms of fluoride contamination. The solution that is most viable & they can be confident in is Cisterns.
Waldo spoke briefly to mention that hearing the issues they are having at present is sad, he is happy they are here today & working to resolve their issues.
Item 2. Sanitarios Secos update – was briefly discussed
Item 3.& 4. Forming of work groups…& pilot training.
Saul said to get this done efficiently let’s talk about the process involved in the construction of cisterns & the general process.
Salud was asked to explain more – since she has already participated in a project, & is now part of the continuing process.
They have decided to do the Pilot training in the primary school & have already confirmed this is ok with the teacher. The kinder has not been constructed yet so it is not an option.
Holly proposed that the date of 17/10 be (tentative) date of the pilot (1st day), it will run for 5 days, & then they will need to be ready to work the following 6 wks to complete all of the cisterns in their groups. By 12/10 we will confirm the pilot date – it is dependent on the money being available from Sapasma in time with the specification of the entire project (including 2 other communities).
Groups were formed…A = abanile, L = leader total 23 family cisterns + 1 pilot = 24 cisterns
Group 1 Group 2 Group 3
1. Irene / Luis A
2. Juana
3. Berancia L
4. Leticia L
5. Salud Juarez
6. Berta
7. Elvia / Mario A
8. Mercedes Alejandra L
Rosamaria
Raquel
Maria Conc. L
Antoninia /Margarito A
Cecilia / Javier A
Julieta Carmen
Marisela
Eduviges / Ignacio A
Maria Zeferina
Felicitas
Antonia
Sylvia L / Federico A
Angelica L
Holly mentioned it is important for each of the groups to make agreements within the group of hours they will work, who will provide food etc, & that it is important that each stage of the cistern is the same for each family, ie that they proceed at the same rate.
There was a discussion about the lack of abaniles, it was pointed out that much of the work can be carried out by the women, (as in other projects) & if an abanile is needed they can group together to contribute to pay for one, Salud described all of the things the women did, & it was essentially a bit of each process…
Saul discussed the roles of – co-ordinator for the whole community Irene & Juana were elected.
& roles of co-ordinator for each group, these were volunteered & appointed.
Tools required on the day(s) of the pilot
Palas, Picos, Mangueras de Nievel, large cutters, cushions for knees, cucharas, escaleras, cubettas etc.
Water required per cistern is 3000 litres, at the school they have access, but at many houses this will be difficult, there are 7 people who have no access to water, one of the men Mario volunteered to help, he will drive water on his pickup truck.
Pilot will start at 8am, & finish depending on how fast they work each day.
Handshakes all round & we (the team) headed off to the next assembly – in Los Magueyes…
Meeting ended at 2.40pm
1st Mtg of the SMA Midday Rotary Los Magueyes Water Project
Where: Los Magueyes community (across from Los Labradores gated community)
When: 21.9.11 3.15pm – 6.35pm
Who: Saul, Holly, Chela – Cedesa, Waldo & Alva – Sapasma, + 28 adults (incl. 6 men)
Purpose: To know more the situation of the Los Magueyes & La Palma communities with regard to water. To determine if they are to be included in the next Sapasma funded Cedesa/Rotary water project.
We all decided to eat first as it was late in the day.
Chela gave a brief introduction re the project history & asked those from Los Magueyes & La Palma to identify themselves, 15 from La Palma raised their hands, & 9 from Los Magueyes raised theres.
Each person in turn introduced themselves & we joked that there were so many “Maria”s, everyone had a good laugh when I introduced myself as Maria too.
Chela described a little about Cedesa, her work for the last 40+ years & the work of Cedesa. She described the history of our work together, ie Rotary & Cedesa since October 2008 & that in May/June 2010 Saul started working with Cedesa after having come to Los Torres during an assembly, as he was doing a temp. job with Desarollo Social at that time, she explained Saul has the sensibility to unite & organize to improve standards of living.
Sapasma have been participating in water projects as a result of the proof of concept provided by the success of the previous projects. They are now working with us to provide resources & learn the process of the water projects.
Chela talked a little on the subject of fluoride & arsenic in this region, & the symptoms/damage it causes to the human body.
She explained we have uncomplicated & good relations with Sapasma & she asked the participants what they know about the projects & why they are here today…
“we don’t have any water, so capturing water is important to us”
“we don’t have potable water & want to learn about capturing water”
“I heard Enrique from Club Rotario, on the radio talking about cisterns, & we always have to pay for petrol to go & collect water from somewhere, I went to see Enrique, we are 7 + 2 families”
“we in La Palma have water so highly chlorinated it’s undrinkable”
“La Palma were invited originally to join in with Los Magueyes as we were told the minimum number for a project was 20 & we are very small – only 9”
Holly asked the history of the 2 communities…
“Los Magueyes families were all from La Palma, 20 years ago we came here, there was nothing here, no electricity, no water etc”
“Los Palma is a ‘bario’ of Rancho Viejo”
“it’s only 600 mtrs from Los Magueyes to the pozo in La Palma, but it is across the highway, so very expensive to pipe the water across”
“La Palma people do not have land or produce food, they all depend on work to buy food”
Chela asked the attendees if they can – from what they know – describe the process…
“attend assemblies”
“have patience re resources”
Chela described the forming of the Consejo (citizen’s council), it was formed to identify issues in common & work together to find solutions, including resources, mutual work commitment, attendance at assemblies & patience. There are many advantages of working together in a Consejo. Organisation is the key to advancing issues. Apparently 3 yrs is the normal amount of time to be working on an issue before achieving a resolution.
It’s a “journey” to lean & grow in general through experiences, talking, working & taking initiative. It’s a way to work together & get to know other communities & be more united in approach to life.
Holly gave an example: Los Torres had a project & inauguration & invited Lucy to come, they decorated, & were all excited & waiting for her to arrive… She didn’t come, in place she sent a representative… Then when the Consejo was formed she has been very responsive & attended almost monthly meetings of the Consejo. She has been very co-operative & supportive & encouraged other departments to be likewise.
“We should continue to meet, there will always be a ‘falling away’ of attendance along the way, but the ones that stay the distance will be the ones to achieve change or objectives.”
“I can imagine there are communities with a much higher need, that are worse off that we are, & for this I imagine we will be lower on the list”
Holly suggested there are other alternatives, if they have to wait, like a ‘tanda’ where people contribute each week & build each cistern as they can, until all are built.
I asked for clarification – if La Palma have water, why do they want to participate in this project?
“because the water is undrinkable, when we turn on the tap, the smell of chlorine is so strong”
Why not tell the water committee person to add less chlorine?
“we did, but we were not at the meeting to vote & so we have no say”
ACTION:
Waldo agreed they will organize a Sapasma rep. to go to La Palma & ensure only the correct dose of chlorine is being added.
So – if the chlorine issue is resolved, will that mean La Palma no longer want a cistern project?
“no, they still want them because sometimes they turn the taps on & no water comes, especially the ones in the upper community”
They are aware this water is only for drinking & cooking. They also know they will be low priority, but that participation changed the priority order, even if the need is high… ie if you don’t participate you lose your spot in the list. Meeting notices are not always advised, (sometimes people can’t get a message the right person) it is important to stay in touch with Saul to keep up to date with when the next meeting is.
INFO, there are approx. 200 families in La Palma.
The meeting finished at 6.35pm, we had a mini tour of the chicken farm, the family sells chicken every Friday.
Next meeting will be Consejo Meeting at La Tinaja on 28.9.11 at 11am
Friday, June 3, 2011
article in atencion 3rd June 2011
Please check this link to see the article in Atencion re the Sapasma/Rotary/Cedesa joint project in Cienega & Villa de Guadalupe...
Click here
Also: Scroll down to view the video re this project.
Wednesday, May 4, 2011
2nd Mtg Cienega Juana Ruiz
Where: Salon de Lectura Cienega Juana Ruiz
When: Wed 4.5.11 5pm (we were late coming from our planning meeting) – 8pm
Who: Saul, Chela, Holly + (Cedesa), Laura, (Rotary), 3 Sapasma Promoters + 30 adults (incl 4 men) from Community of Cienega.
Purpose: 2nd planning meeting for the Water Cistern project, funded as part of the US$35k Sapasma grant. This project (along with the one in Villa de Guadalupe) will be considered a training program for Sapasma promoters to learn the Cedesa method & overall operations of the water projects. It will be to provide 26 family cisterns in Cienega + 1 pilot will be funded by the Bellingham Rotary Club direct grant.
Sapasma will be attending all planning meetings as well as training pilot & various individual family work sessions, to learn the process from beginning to end.
Chela explained why we were late, we had had 3 meetings prior to this one.
A co-ordinator was elected – Adriana & secretary (?)
Introductions by Sapasma, & the Roll was called. Chela asked who else was attended (other than those on the list) & why they were here – they responded they were interested in getting water.
One person who is on the list does not have space for the cistern so is donating her place. Chela asked who agreed & who want3ed to comment. Amelia (consejo rep) explained that it was a decision for the whole group to discuss & make.
Chela wanted to clarify that the project is not a normal program/handout but an involved process. She asked if anyone wanted to talk about the water situation in general to know more.
The discussion then covered the topics of contaminants, bacterial v chemical/mineral. The contaminant fluoride was discussed, along with the symptoms. & the method of killing bacteria with the Sodis (www.sodis.ch) was briefly explained.
Chela asked why Sapasma was there – the crowd responded to learn the process along side us & to provide resources, & also to talk about the pozo issue.
Chela “so you have your resources organized already?” si, but we need to organize the work groups, & plan the project, we have done that already, for our homework! We have 5 groups organized…
We then had a discussion as we had only budgeted on 4 work groups (ie each work group needs their own set of plywood & water truck deliveries – in this case). So we needed to reorganize the work groups into just 4 groups.
There was discussion about the water situation, as there is none in this community (only irrigation wells from which they have to “borrow” water, or dry river beds where they excavate approx. 1mtr to collect the water from the muddy puddle), we need to organize with Sapasma to have pipas (water trucks), & these cost money – so a solicitude needs to be made (with Sapasma’s promoters assistance) to the municipality to cover the cost of these water truck deliveries, which are essential for the construction of the cisterns.
Holly spent many hours working on the solution, she estimated the qty of water for each cistern to be approx. 2400 cisterns, ie 12 tambos (big buckets), each truck can be 5000 or 10,000 ltrs so need to arrange for deliveries sufficient for 2400 per family per group. A schedule has been drawn up to ensure the construction of the cisterns is not held up for lack of water deliveries.
Chela asked who at Sapasma is responsible for ensuring the water deliveries, & the promoters responded Waldo.
The groups were then formed - 4 groups (formatting lost in this blog!)
Luis Gonz
Ricardo Guerrero ©
Soccorro Soria ©
Adriana Ramirez
Veronica Torres
Abelina Soria
Emelia Gonz (CC)/A
Audencia
Marina Ramz.
Elisa Martinez©
Jose Soria
Victoria Vargas
Rosalia Vargas ©
Rutilia Ramz
Luisa Guerrero
Calina Vasquez (a)
Javier Guerrero ©
Carmela Guerrero©
Estela Monton
Sanjuana Torres
Almadelia ©
Paulina (a)
Juana Vazquez
Imelda Martinez ©
Victoria Vazquez
Consuelo Juarez
There was a discussion about the need for a minimum of 1-2 abaniles per each group, if they are not available on afternoons or weekends even, they will need, as a group to contribute to pay someone. Emelia pointed out that many people can be abaniles, they don’t need a degree in it she asked Sergio “have you got a degree?” everyone laughed.
Sapasma asked if they can take photos to record the process, Emelia began preening herself & again everyone cracked up laughing.
The co-ordinator role for the groups was explained, ie they are the go-to people for deliveries, short deliveries, issues etc, 2 co-ordinators were appointed for each group.
Emelia was appointed as community co-ordinator (ie overall co-ordinator).
Saul explained that the abanile involvement is very important, it is essential to make the best possible cistern so it does not fail you…
Emelia mentioned how much she is enjoying the thought of working together in groups, this community have worked together before & have achieved a lot, they have facilities we have not seen in other communities, eg a community kitchen, a health clinic, a library, & even a small bull ring… they enjoy working together, Emelia “it is one thing to be talking about work, but it really lifts your spirits when you work together & slap on the cement!”
Saul reiterated – it really is a joy to work in teams on these projects – developing harmony.
Saul mentioned the chain of command re the group work, re errors or issues, try to resolve them amongst your group, then with your group co-ordinators, then with the community co-ordinator & as a last resort call him.
Hours of work re the Pilot
The pilot is to begin in Cienega on the 9th May. There was discussion about starting time for the day’s work. Some wanted to start at 7am, others 8am & others 9am. 8 am was the consensus.
When deliveries are ready they call Saul, & Saul will all the leaders of the project to meet the trucks to tell them where to go.
Attendance at the pilot is ideal for all members all days, ie to learn the process fully. Those that really can not attend need to send representatives, &/or provide food & drink.
PVC limit 2.5 tramos per family
Saul mentioned there is a limit to the qty of PVC piping that will be supplied by the project, many people want to have their cisterns way away from the house & this costs more in piping. The new method is to build the cistern as close as poss. Or where they desire, then measure the piping requirements once the cistern is in place, this is a more precise method.
The location of the cistern is important & needs to take into account the overall plan for the whole backyard, including gardens, rubbish, compost, animals, fruit trees, etc.
Some people paint pictures or decorate their cisterns, in Vivienda Urbana someone has drawn a picture of jesus on the cross, in Vivienda Arriba they have elephants on the side & stampeding up the top! The cistern is there for your whole life so it’s important to accommodate it in the best possible spot.
It is 2.5 mtrs high + .7 more for the peak.
No throwaway cups & plates – the volume of rubbish created during the communal meetings is immense & everyone is encouraged to bring re-usable plates & cups to cut down waste.
Tools – the tools required for the first day were listed, including ladders, wheelbarrows, big buckets, wire cutters, grinder, sieves
End of planning session for the Water Project
Pozo…
Discussion/plans were made re the situation with the Pozo.
Piping was put in place approx. 3 yrs ago, after working on the issue for 7 yrs, but now the pipes are in a state of disrepair & they are still not hooked up to the well.
There is an issue re the concession holder for the well, he went to the USA, they have been working on changing the ownership of the concession.
Sapasma asked if they had a water committee, the delegado said yes they have been appointed but have never received training, Sapasma explained they may have been missed, they have trained 83 communities in the region but must have missed this one.
A phone number was exchanged so the delegado can co=ordinate a training session for the water committee.
The Delegado mentioned they have been working for many years on the issue of provision of water with Sapasma, but have not got anywhere.
Chela said there are many responsible, not just Sapasma, that the whole community needs to take responsibility to push this forward. (I missed the end of the meeting as had to take a phone call)
Meeting finished at 7.20pm & a big feast was provided!
Next meeting 9/5/11 – pilot construction at Casa de Salud begins 8am.
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
1st Mtg Cienega Juana Ruiz
Where: Salon de Lectura
When: Wed 13.4.11 3.40pm (we were late) – 5pm
Who: Saul, Chela, Holly + Audelia (Cedesa), Laura, (Rotary), + 20 adults (incl 2 men) from Community of Cienega.
Purpose: 1st planning meeting for the Water Cistern project, funded as part of the US$35k Sapasma grant. This project (along with the one in Villa de Guadalupe) will be considered a training program for Sapasma promoters to learn the Cedesa method & overall operations of the water projects. It will be to provide 26 family cisterns in Cienega + 1 pilot will be funded by the Bellingham Rotary Club direct grant.
Sapasma will be attending all planning meetings as well as training pilot & various individual family work sessions, to learn the process from beginning to end.
The attendance roll was read out.
Chela explained that representatives of this community had been regularly attending assemblies in other communities to ask for assistance in receiving materials & training to build cisterns, as they have no safe drinking water here.
Chela asked everyone in the circle to introduce themselves.
She then gave a little of the history of the projects to date, Saul explained that today’s meeting was as a result of the Consejo deciding that Cienega were to be next in line to receive resources, hence they were receiving resources from Sapasma for 26 cisterns in this community, as well as $$ from Bellingham Rotary club to pay for the pilot training cistern.
Chela said so we’re here today to begin planning but also to get to know eachother better.
It is very important for the sake of future projects that this project be successful, as it is essentially a pilot project for Sapasma, to learn how to do more of these in other communities, they will be treating this as a model & also learning in Villa de Guadalupe.
The community mentioned they had 5 or 6 meetings on the topic of water already, “we were very united while we had the project to build this building (the salon we were sitting in) & we are keen to unite to achieve safe drinking water for our community as the next project”
We proposed that the pilot be 9/5 – community agreed this would be a good time as later they would have to be working planting in the fields as the rains are the only way to water their crops & they need to plant in readiness.
Saul asked if everyone is aware of the work process of this project.
Saul asked someone to describe what working in groups meant, one of the older guys responded that that’s how they built their corrals, we work together, & each family provides food. This community has also been working together for years to grow medicinal herbs which they sell in various locations including the market in SMA.
Amelia (the delegada’s wife) explained that it is not her responsibility to advise people about the meeting times, if people are interested they need to come to her, or write it down from the last meeting.
Saul responded – for us this is good, if you are organized & harmonious it’s good for us & also very good for Sapasma, since this is a pilot project, & will encourage more projects of this type in the future. So, if you are harmonious congratulations! & it will be much easier for all of us.
Saul began to describe the process: we begin in a public location that will benefit everyone, & build a pilot cistern there, during the construction of that cistern – approx. 4.5 days, everyone will learn the process of building a cistern & connecting it to your roof, so you can build your own in family groups.
Current water situation
The question of contamination arose - & the community informed they have damaged teeth, they dig shallow wells by the river to get their water, but at the end of the dry season hard to find.
Re the big Pozo (well), there is still a problem with the concession of this well, the concession holder has gone to the States & needs to sign over paperwork to someone else to be able to connect & use the pozo. There were pipes laid years ago, but it has not been resolved since then & therefore these pipes are now in a state of dis-repair. The community paid for these pipes, by individual family contribution.
They have been working approx. 7 years on this, & by their admission worked a bit backwards, ie they put in the piping first & still have not had it connected so they need to spend more money on repairs & need to work out how & who to charge for this… it is 3 yrs since they put in the pipes.
Position for pilot cistern
Apparently they already have a cistern at the kinder so decided to build the pilot a the health clinic instead.
Pilot start date 9/5.
Laura to have materials paid & delivered by 6/5 in readiness for 9/5.
Next meeting (Sapasma also invited) 4/5/11 at 4pm at the Salon de Lectura
Meeting adjourned & we were taken to the Community kitchen, & offered tostadas with lettuce & soya “meat”, tomato, avocado & cilantro…
While we were there we noticed they had a number of treadle sewing machines, apparently it was part of a govt. program, but the training was too condensed & no-one remembers, Laura undertook to see if she could find some “sewing experts” to give lessons.
2nd Meeting Villa de Guadalupe
When: Wed 13.4.11 11am - 1.25pm
Who: Saul, Chela, Holly (Cedesa), Laura, Enrique (Rotary), 9 promoters from Sapasma, Community of Villa de G. 43 adults (incl 9 men) + 3 kids.
Purpose: 1st planning meeting for the Water Cistern project, funded as part of the US$35k Sapasma grant. This project (along with the one in Cienega Juana Ruiz) will be considered a training program for Sapasma promoters to learn the Cedesa method & overall operations of the water projects. It will be to provide 27 family cisterns in Villa de Guadalupe + 1 pilot will be funded by the Bellingham Rotary Club direct grant.
Sapasma will be attending all planning meetings as well as training pilot & various individual family work sessions, to learn the process from beginning to end.
Before everyone assembled we had a brief discussion re the history of VdG, it started only in 1983, with people from La Palmita II receiving ejido land here. Because of lack of water it was very difficult & of the 40-50 people who settled originally only 7 families stayed, & others move away (some to SMA, 1 of these came back later).
Chela began – 1st we need to ask permission to take photos & video to record the process. We have explained previously the reason we take photos is for us to be able to explain the need & ideally source more funds for more projects in the communities in need. The community all agreed.
Next the roll was called, at the early part of the meeting 11 off the list of previous attendees were missing. Many arrived late.
Introductions around the circle:
Chela gave a little history of our collaboration, Enrique added that Sapasma were here to learn the process alongside all of us.
Chela explained the roll of all parties, Sapasma will provide funding, Rotary will co-ordinate (& administer funds – as it was discovered 1 wk later), Cedesa will provide training & co-ordination skills, & the community will participate, learn the process, & do the work to construct the cisterns… All this hopefully before the rains come!
Chela described a little about the region/Consejo – how the work has developed & how the communities are now collaborating.
The “region” of 18 communities is divided into micro regions…
Micro region 1 – Cinco Senores, Juan Gonzalez, San Lorenzo, Corralejo de Abajo, Palmita II, Cienega, La Tinaja & Villa de Guadalupe.
Micro region 2 – Capaderillo (40 cisterns) , La Aurora, Guerrero, Vivienda Urbana, Presita de Santa Rosa.
Micro region 3 – Tierra Blanca (42) , Los Torres (52), Cruz del Palmar (27), Vivienda de Arriba (17), Montecillo de Nieto (30),
& Palencia, nth of Dolores Hidalgo (21)
The region have prioritized the communities regarding order to receive cisterns, & Sapasma is responding by providing funding for 2 communities.
Objective To provide safe drinking water for generations to come, ie without fluoride or arsenic , because fluoride causes many problems, not just in the teeth, but all the major organs of the body.
We started these projects in Los Torres, we know they have high levels of fluoride, UNAM have done a study beginning in 1998 which discovered the fluoride contamination issue in this region, & have been working to communicate the drastic effects of fluoride.
The fluoride issue is part of a wider study undertaken on the area to understand the water situation in this region. They now know that the aquifer in this region services not just SMA but 6 other municipalities. The water we are drinking today is 1000’s of years old & is not recharging, but rather the aquifer is reducing at an average rate of 1mtr per year.
A diplomado was held at Cedesa in 2008/09 during which the information about the aquifer & water in general was shared with up to 80 communities with up to 120 attendees every 2nd Saturday for 10 mths. They looked at options for preventing contamination/providing safe water, they did many tests & discovered only really 2 options, 1. To distill the water using solar distillation, 2. To catch the rainwater. Cisterns are the least expensive, least maintenance & most productive option.
For this reason – we are here – now let’s begin planning this project!!
Chela asked who will co-ordinate & take records for this meeting? She explained this is part of the process of every meeting, ie to appoint someone to keep order & someone to record decisions, actions & attendance.
With a different co-ordinator each meeting, more people learn the process.
There were then votes for 2 proposed people, Poli & Martin.
Martin was selected.
Margarita was voted to take notes.
We also pass the list (take the roll) at all meetings, this is to see who has attended most consistently, it was with this information that the micro regions were able to determine the priority communities, so again today, we will take the roll… (for the 2nd time since many turned up late).
There are 23 here so we are missing 4 from the proposed recipients list.
Saul pointed out that it is important for everyone to know what they are getting themselves into with this project, it is not easy & now is the time to make the firm commitment.
Chela explained re the work groups they need to form, that it is important for these to be formed with good feeling & harmony, for them to work effectively & without issue. She asked “what happens if you are not in harmony or good relations?” they answered – we will not work well.
Points for today’s agenda were called for:
• Subterranean cisterns
• Work groups
• Date of pilot
• Place of pilot
• Pozo/Corralejo water sharing discussion
Subterranean Cisterns
Martin asked why we do not make cisterns below ground/subterranean?
There was much discussion about this, & the reasons were explained –
• the ground is very hard therefore difficult to excavate,
• the method of construction would have to be different in each case,
• so not easy to teach,
• the cistern would need a pump or buckets to be lowered to collect the water – the pump is expensive & the buckets introduce bacteria/dirt & require a lot of energy,
• with the above ground model we don’t require engineering expertise in each case,
• kids can fall into below ground cisterns
Work groups
After much discussion the following work groups were established. It was explained ideal to have min 2 abaniles in each group. C = co-ordinator, A = Abanile
Chela asked people to raise their hands if they were abaniles, 4 raised their hands so 1 was appointed to each group. Chela explained that if there are not enough abaniles the group can contribute to pay someone to assist them.
Other forms of assistance are to provide food & drink.
Saul mentioned the abaniles could work on the weekends with the women doing the rest of the work.
Absences were discussed, Chela asked if they are not attending today are they interested or not?
The crowd responded “not”.
One young woman was not able to make it but instead provided a very large container of drink & cups for everyone, she is definitely interested but could not attend, her mother in law was here & reported this. She has attended all previous meetings.
A new person was proposed, she was very active in previous meetings too, this person was proposed & accepted. Martin volunteered to give up his spot on the list since he has only recently moved here & does not have much space, this was good as we had more people wanting cisterns than we had $$ for & it made the numbers balance…There will be some people deferring to stage II (by choice).
Co-ordinators for each group were appointed, with their roles explained, & also a co-ordinator for the whole community Margarita/Adriana Ramirez Gonzalez was chosen since she was willing & had a phone…ph 415 119 4246
There was a call for doubts & questions but there were none.
Date & Place of Pilot
All voted for the kinder – 16 children attend the kinder.
Pilot to start on 2/5 (since JG/SL & 5S pilot is starting on the 25/4)
The established start time was 9am, with finish time depending on how fast they work.
Laura to order materials to arrive for the pilot on 29/4 in time for the pilot. Family materials to be ordered to arrive approx. 9/5/11.
Food is bought to the site, those not working can bring food to those who are…
There was more discussion about the forms of work, how they will work together, the timing of deliveries of materials so all can advance at the same rate, it’s easy for a change of mind to happen, ie when someone is finished theirs to drop out of the group, & we want to avoid that happening…
Working together is difficult & hard work bua as soon as you drink the 1st glass of water when the rains arrive you will see how worth it it all has been!
One young woman asked when the 2nd stage will begin as her house is not constructed yet, she (Eulelia) was appointed the task of keeping the list of the 2nd stage participants.
Discussion re the tools needed: ladders, wheelbarrows, shovels, sieves, grinder to make the hooks etc.
Planning meeting ended at 1.25pm
We adjourned for the usual delicious lunch – freshly made tortillas, red rice, beans, garbanzos, greens.
Pozo/Well discussion
Next was a meeting about the lack of water in VdG, ie the possibility of sharing the Corralejo Pozo, or having their own. This community has been without water forever. They have made several contributions to pozos, but all they have to show for it is piping & a large reservoir that has never had water in it. There has been ongoing (12 yrs) conflict with neighbouring community Corralejo, who did successfully achieve a pozo, & were initially supposed to have shared with VdG, but for errors on both sides this has not happened.
Martin led the discussion on this, he had a lot of official paperwork & was representing an organization (I didn’t catch the name) that works on legal issues…There were only 29 heads of households there so not an official assembly, ie not a majority, it was therefore suggested that the information be collated - including payments made to date, secret well, possibility of legalization of this, the representatives agreed to make a presentation to the Presidencia at the next Consejo meeting.
Next meeting date is date of 1st day of Pilot 2/5/11 at 9am at Kinder
Monday, April 4, 2011
Report of 10th Event Re Tierra Blanca
When: April 4th 9.30-2.30
Who: Saul (Cedesa) Laura, Enrique (Rotary), Waldo Cano + team of promoters (Sapasma) + approx. 50 participants of the project.
Purpose:
1. For Saul to train the 40 families participating in the project in Tierra Blanca – by constructing 2 cisterns (1 at the primary & 1 at the Secondary school)
2. For Sapasma Promoter team to learn the full process of the water projects. Seeing in person the pilot training, & learning more from Saul re the other points.
I arrived approx. 9.40 & training was in full swing. The maya was rolled out on the chicken wire & then more chicken wire placed on top. One of the men was cutting pieces off the maya to grind into hooks for weaving the wire together with the maya in the middle.
The maya lengths are 96 squares long by 16 wide & in each 4” by 4” square, 4 lots of wires are woven.
This full length of wire is then cut into 2 pieces, with the 2nd smaller piece being reserved to make the cone top of the cistern.
Both sets of wires for each pilot was done at the primary school, for Saul to be able to easily train both groups in the same place. Saul was assisted by 2 guys who had completed projects in Vivienda Urbana, great when the trainees become the trainers!! Sharing the expertise.
The kids at the school were buzzing around wondering what was going on.
Everyone was happily participating & concentrating hard to learn the steps.
Please see photos on the blog www.02h2o.blogspot.com
Enrique arrived with Sapasma approx. 11.30am.
The promoters team came & took photos, & asked questions, to begin to learn the process of this project, they intend to replicate, after the initial Sapasma/Water team projects in Villa de Guadalupe & Cienega.
Saul explained what the participants were doing, & talked a little about the construction & placement of the cisterns, dimensions, capacity etc. We then adjourned under a big gum tree to talk more about the whole process, from beginning to end. The Sapasma team all took notes & asked questions.
We programmed our next meeting with Sapasma (ie the first planning meeting with our joint project community – Villa de Guadalupe…)
Sapasma said they would like to come back each day of the pilot to see progress & learn more & asked if this was ok, of course they were welcome…
I left & drove the bone shaking road back to the highway & then back to San Miguel, hot but happy.
Tuesday, March 15, 2011
Sapasma Joins the Team!!
They propose to work with us to learn the model & methodology, & then their promoters (outreach workers) will take it to other communities!
So, with 53 more cisterns & 2 more communities served, we continue to work towards resolving this issue for all in need!!
3 cheers for Sapasma!!
For almost 3 years we have been working with Sapasma as well as other local authorities, Desarollo Social & the Ecology department, to collaborate & find a resolution to the safe drinking water issue...with huge thanks & kudos to the participants of the previous projects in the communities we have been working with, we now take this big step forward with the rural communities of San Miguel...